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Ubuntu and exFAT

Bret Busby-2
Hello.

A new SSD has as its default, exFAT.

I have seen that, to mount and use exFAT, in Ubuntu Linux, the command
needs to be ran;
sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils

I am wondering whether the fuse stuff to enable exFAT rw access, is
automatically included in Ubuntu 18.04, or also needs to be manually
added in 18.04

Thank you in anticipation.

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Re: Ubuntu and exFAT

Oliver Grawert
hi,
Am Montag, den 03.09.2018, 21:59 +0800 schrieb Bret Busby:

> Hello.
>
> A new SSD has as its default, exFAT.
>
> I have seen that, to mount and use exFAT, in Ubuntu Linux, the
> command
> needs to be ran;
> sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
>
> I am wondering whether the fuse stuff to enable exFAT rw access, is
> automatically included in Ubuntu 18.04, or also needs to be manually
> added in 18.04
>
exfat is patent encumbered ... so you cant ship/distribute it by
default (similar to the original mp3 codecs from fraunhofer back in the
days) on an iso.

ciao
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Re: Ubuntu and exFAT

Colin Law-2
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On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 15:01, Bret Busby <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> A new SSD has as its default, exFAT.
>
> I have seen that, to mount and use exFAT, in Ubuntu Linux, the command
> needs to be ran;
> sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils

Do you need to keep it on exFAT? I always reformat mine to ext4, or
install Ubuntu on it telling it to reformat.

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Re: Ubuntu and exFAT

Bret Busby-2
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On 03/09/2018, Oliver Grawert <[hidden email]> wrote:

> hi,
> Am Montag, den 03.09.2018, 21:59 +0800 schrieb Bret Busby:
>> Hello.
>>
>> A new SSD has as its default, exFAT.
>>
>> I have seen that, to mount and use exFAT, in Ubuntu Linux, the
>> command
>> needs to be ran;
>> sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
>>
>> I am wondering whether the fuse stuff to enable exFAT rw access, is
>> automatically included in Ubuntu 18.04, or also needs to be manually
>> added in 18.04
>>
> exfat is patent encumbered ... so you cant ship/distribute it by
> default (similar to the original mp3 codecs from fraunhofer back in the
> days) on an iso.
>
> ciao
> oli

Hello.

Thank you for your reply.

However, ...

An interesting observation - on the system on which I tried first to
install the two packages, from the response, it appears to me, that
the two exFAT packages were already installed.


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 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

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Re: Ubuntu and exFAT

Bret Busby
On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, Bret Busby wrote:

> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 02:27:50
> From: Bret Busby <[hidden email]>
> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>     <[hidden email]>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>     <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu and exFAT
>
> On 03/09/2018, Oliver Grawert <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> hi,
>> Am Montag, den 03.09.2018, 21:59 +0800 schrieb Bret Busby:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> A new SSD has as its default, exFAT.
>>>
>>> I have seen that, to mount and use exFAT, in Ubuntu Linux, the
>>> command
>>> needs to be ran;
>>> sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
>>>
>>> I am wondering whether the fuse stuff to enable exFAT rw access, is
>>> automatically included in Ubuntu 18.04, or also needs to be manually
>>> added in 18.04
>>>
>> exfat is patent encumbered ... so you cant ship/distribute it by
>> default (similar to the original mp3 codecs from fraunhofer back in the
>> days) on an iso.
>>
>> ciao
>> oli
>
> Hello.
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> However, ...
>
> An interesting observation - on the system on which I tried first to
> install the two packages, from the response, it appears to me, that
> the two exFAT packages were already installed.
>

"
bret@bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE:~$ uname -a
Linux bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE 4.4.0-133-generic #159-Ubuntu SMP Fri
Aug 10 07:31:43 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
...
bret@bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE:~$ sudo apt install exfat-fuse
exfat-utils
sudo: unable to resolve host bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE
[sudo] password for bret:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
exfat-fuse is already the newest version (1.2.3-1).
exfat-utils is already the newest version (1.2.3-1).
0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 8 not to upgrade.
bret@bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE:~$
"

That, to me, appears to indicate that the pacakages were already
installed (by default?).

Whilst the uname command response does not show it, the version of
UbuntuMATE is 16.04.x


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  you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
   written by Douglas Adams,
   published by Pan Books, 1992
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Re: Ubuntu and exFAT

Oliver Grawert
hi,
Am Dienstag, den 04.09.2018, 02:38 +0800 schrieb Bret Busby:

> That, to me, appears to indicate that the pacakages were already 
> installed (by default?).
>
> Whilst the uname command response does not show it, the version of 
> UbuntuMATE is 16.04.x

aha !

yeah, it seems mate and UbuntuKylin in fact actually ship them:

$ apt-cache show exfat-utils|grep Task
Task: ubuntukylin-desktop, ubuntu-mate-desktop
$ apt-cache show exfat-fuse|grep Task
Task: ubuntukylin-desktop, ubuntu-mate-desktop

ciao
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Re: Ubuntu and exFAT

Bret Busby-2
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On 04/09/2018, Bret Busby <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2018 02:27:50
>> From: Bret Busby <[hidden email]>
>> Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>>     <[hidden email]>
>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
>>     <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: Ubuntu and exFAT
>>
>> On 03/09/2018, Oliver Grawert <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> Am Montag, den 03.09.2018, 21:59 +0800 schrieb Bret Busby:
>>>> Hello.
>>>>
>>>> A new SSD has as its default, exFAT.
>>>>
>>>> I have seen that, to mount and use exFAT, in Ubuntu Linux, the
>>>> command
>>>> needs to be ran;
>>>> sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
>>>>
>>>> I am wondering whether the fuse stuff to enable exFAT rw access, is
>>>> automatically included in Ubuntu 18.04, or also needs to be manually
>>>> added in 18.04
>>>>
>>> exfat is patent encumbered ... so you cant ship/distribute it by
>>> default (similar to the original mp3 codecs from fraunhofer back in the
>>> days) on an iso.
>>>
>>> ciao
>>> oli
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> Thank you for your reply.
>>
>> However, ...
>>
>> An interesting observation - on the system on which I tried first to
>> install the two packages, from the response, it appears to me, that
>> the two exFAT packages were already installed.
>>
>
> "
> bret@bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE:~$ uname -a
> Linux bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE 4.4.0-133-generic #159-Ubuntu SMP Fri
> Aug 10 07:31:43 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> ...
> bret@bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE:~$ sudo apt install exfat-fuse
> exfat-utils
> sudo: unable to resolve host bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE
> [sudo] password for bret:
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> exfat-fuse is already the newest version (1.2.3-1).
> exfat-utils is already the newest version (1.2.3-1).
> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 8 not to upgrade.
> bret@bret-Inspiron-580-UbuntuMATE:~$
> "
>
> That, to me, appears to indicate that the pacakages were already
> installed (by default?).
>
> Whilst the uname command response does not show it, the version of
> UbuntuMATE is 16.04.x
>


Also, ...

"
bret@bret-Aspire-V3-772-UbuntuMATE:~$ sudo apt install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
sudo: unable to resolve host bret-Aspire-V3-772-UbuntuMATE
[sudo] password for bret:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
exfat-fuse is already the newest version (1.2.3-1).
exfat-utils is already the newest version (1.2.3-1).
0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 39 not to upgrade.
bret@bret-Aspire-V3-772-UbuntuMATE:~$
"

Another UbuntuMATE 16.04.x system.

And I get pretty much the same response (except the currently
installed packages have version number 1.2.8-1) on a UbuntuMATE 18.04
system.

I am not complaining - I am happy that the software apparently was
already installed (and, the latest applicable versions).

I am now curious, as to whether other people also already have the
utilities installed, without having to install them, on Ubuntu Linux.

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"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

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Re: Ubuntu and exFAT

Bret Busby-2
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On 04/09/2018, Oliver Grawert <[hidden email]> wrote:

> hi,
> Am Dienstag, den 04.09.2018, 02:38 +0800 schrieb Bret Busby:
>>
>> That, to me, appears to indicate that the pacakages were already
>> installed (by default?).
>>
>> Whilst the uname command response does not show it, the version of
>> UbuntuMATE is 16.04.x
>
> aha !
>
> yeah, it seems mate and UbuntuKylin in fact actually ship them:
>
> $ apt-cache show exfat-utils|grep Task
> Task: ubuntukylin-desktop, ubuntu-mate-desktop
> $ apt-cache show exfat-fuse|grep Task
> Task: ubuntukylin-desktop, ubuntu-mate-desktop
>
> ciao
> oli

Thank you for that.

The response above, being timestamped whilst I was typing my last
previous message, apparently arrived as I sent my last previous
message, with my last previous message now being superfluous.


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"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992

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